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Yeah, this is a big Obama disappointment

“The Daily Show” called Bush and his cronies out on all their bullshit for eight years. And it’s good to see that they’re willing to call out Obama when he’s responsible for some bullshit of his own.

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On the issue of homosexuality I have one point, one question.

Question: If a U.S. soldier admits to homosexuality, while in service, what type of discharge is he or she given? My understanding is if he or she plays his or her cards right, it is a good discharge; if wrong, then bad. Wrong is if you get caught out for doing drugs or other things. Either way, it is the fastest way out of the military that gives you strong arguments. All you have to do is publicly admit to being gay. Best part? Once out, go to a local church group and become "reformed." Then you can tell everyone you have seen the error in your ways, you are no longer gay, and yet you are still out of the military. Grats!

On the other hand, if you are foreign, especially Middle Eastern - especially Iraqi - by "admitting" you are homosexual to the troop you are servicing with, you get two instant prizes! 1) You no longer have to serve with them, you're done. 2) Asylum to America! Why? Because if you were to go home, you would be killed for being gay. Congratulations, you win. And once you get to America? Go to your local mosque, admit you've been a naughty boy, and have them help you reform - oh and, find a wife. Yay, done.

So, either way, admitting you are homosexual in the military is a win - you are out of the military and you potentially get emigrated to the U.S. If we change the policy, then this easy out no longer exists, and simultaneously we give equal rights to homosexuals - win!

gay in service is a dishonorable discharge.

A dishonourable discharge you say? Well that sucks. You work hard, serve you country as well as or even better than some of your peers, and because they don't like your partner you're out?

Gay in service is not a dishonorable unless you're caught in the act while on duty - don't ask don't tell provides for general or honorable discharges as long as you weren't caught

I believe it is typically general or honorable discharge, unless you name names, get caught, or are found to have other things wrong. However, they will do everything they can to dishonour you.

I spent 6 years in the USN, from 2000-2006 so I figure I could try and help clarify some things. Getting discharged for homosexuality is a administration separation. Basically its like you were never in the military but there are still some benefits available to you. Now I served on a carrier as a nuke, and I served with a couple of open homosexuals (That is to say, they had same sex relationships away from the boat, not with someone on the boat). It wasn't seen as a big deal. I did know a couple of guys that got out on a "Rainbow Chit" and every single one of them were heterosexual. The big unspoken fact is that "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" isn't used to get rid of open homosexuals, its used to get rid of people that don't want to be in the military anymore. Its the least painful way to go, the quickest, and the least likely to go wrong in your face.

I have never heard of someone (since the 1970's) receiving a Dishonorable Discharge for homosexuality. That's a felony conviction, require a court martial. The level of proof required is the same as a court of law and involves attorneys. Commands don't like attorneys. No command wants to go to that trouble and create such a shit storm. Plus, that costs a shit ton of money. Give someone an Admin Sep, send them on their way, is a lot easier.